Construction templates forced by DB at surface level

telesbranco · Posts: 18

Dear Designbuilder Support,

I'm having the following problem with the latest DB versions (I don't know exactly on which version this bug started occurring).
When I am modelling a building, I usually try to define some construction templates so that I can then associate these templates to zones at zone level. Whenever there is some wall that does not match the definition of the construction template inherited from zone level, I simply define a different wall component at that wall surface (surface level).
The problem occurs when I need to copy one block over another (for duplicate floors). In this case DB applies the construction templates at surface level on both blocks (original and copy), while mantaining the definitions I made at surface level. Unfortunatley, whenever I later need to reload the construction templates, I loose all the definitions at surface level, because DB had set a construction template at surface level. Also, if I decide to change the construction templates at zone level, it doesn't make any real difference because DB had previously set construction templates at surface level!
I just noticed that this problem also occurs to any block whenever I delete the block above or below it.

Can this be fixed? I just realized that I am going to have to redefine all the construction templates for 3 buildings...

Thanks,

João Pedro Santos

telesbranco · Posts: 18

Hi again,

just noticed that this problem also occurs whenever I simply import an existing building into a new file.

Regards,
João Pedro Santos

Andy Tindale · Posts: 1235 Location: Stroud

Dear João,

I think I understand what you are doing, i.e. loading construction templates at zone level and in places overriding the defaults by making a direct selection of say wall, floor or roof construction at surface level where particular surfaces have different constructions.

telesbranco · Posts: 18

Dear Andy,

Please see the attached files.
1.File #1 "OriginalBlock_Partition.png" shows a partition from the original block. You can see that this surface is inheriting major properties from the construction template set at a higher level (actually set at zone level).

2.I then copy this block womewhere else in the drawing. File #2 "CopiedBlock_Partition.png" shows the same partition, but from the copied block. You can see that DB has now set the construction template also at surface level, but still keeping the specific characteristics of this internal partition, which is to be of the type "Norfin_W59".
If I need to reload construction templates, I will loose the definition "Norfin_W59" of this surface, because DB had set a construction template at surface level, which will override the specific definition of the this internal wall.

3. File #3 (see next submitted topic reply) shows what also happened to the roof of the copied block. This roof, (actually a ceiling in the original block, but this makes no difference) whas inheriting all its properties from the template defined at zone level in the original block. The copied block, however shows a construction template defined at surface level, which means that I just lost the inheritance to the zone.

Another thing that happens is that if you delete a block which lies above another one or place a block above another one, this problem occurs on both of these blocks. The strangest thing is that it does not occur to all surfaces, but I believe actually only to those which lie in zones which have a construction template defined at zone level. The surfaces of the zones which are inheriting the construction template from block level show no problems.

The problems also occur if I import an existng drawing into another one, even if I had previously exported/imported all libraries.

Thanks,

Regards,
João Pedro

telesbranco · Posts: 18

File #3 "CopiedBlock_Roof"

Andy Tindale · Posts: 1235 Location: Stroud

João,

Thank you for the detailed description. I tried to reproduce this behaviour but without any luck. Any chance you could send me the dsb file with instructions on how to reproduce?

Thanks,

Andy

telesbranco · Posts: 18

Hi Andy,

I sent yesterday a mail with two dsb files to supportdesk@designbuilder.co.uk. Did you see them?

Best regards,
João Pedro

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